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up for a second, steven, we talk about the fiscal cliff every day. those who are in the market talk about the fiscal cliff every day. does the average consumer out there moms and pops, do they talk about the fiscal cliff? does it factor into their spending efforts? >> not really. that's a great question. and the answer is no, not really. what i think really is happening with the michigan numbers and the sentiment numbers is a little bit of optimism that followed on the back of the election process. and then it's settling back in that nothing's going to change. nothing is going to get better. nothing's happening in washington. there is no movement towards consensus on either side of the debate. people look at that and say what were we so optimistic about? i think the cliff will be more of an effect afterwards. but to go back to stewart's point, he's talking about 2% growth in spending. 2% consumer growth is probably going to produce a very weak gdp number. although we had a nice number on the boost, we'll have a horrible in the next quarter. which isn't great. that's really the point
talking about every morning here since the election. fiscal cliff, big, big issue. there are now, it seems, growing numbers of people on both the right and the left who would like to see us just go over that fiscal cliff. how big of a problem would that be? >> that would be a big problem. i actually still believe that those -- the democrats, the administration, republicans in the final analysis don't want to see that happen. they do understand that not only would that present a problem in the near term as we went over the cliff at the end of the year, but we still then have the whole debt ceiling fight that would transpire shortly into the new year. the issue isn't simply the negative result of going over the cliff, but it's also that business, consumers, everybody continues to hold back on the uncertainty. and we believe the economy is pretty well positioned potentially in 2013 if we can put this behind us. so i think a lot of what's going on is what you would expect to see in this negotiation, very public negotiation, which is not the best way to do it. i think at some point, the preside
's talking points memo many believe the president has the upper hand in the fiscal cliff negotiations. if we gopher 00 cliff republicans think they will get most of the blame. if they give in to tax hikes conservatives believe they will infuriate their base. senator rand paul even believes that since they have such little leverage in the talks of president obama. well, republicans should just get out of the way and let the democrats raise taxes as much as they want. and then let the president take responsibility for party of high taxes. now can i understand senator paul's thinking especially given the fact that the president has already announced ahead of his mano a mano meeting can john boehner that he won't concede an inch on tax cuts. this republican defeatism news broke of jim demint's departure from the senate yesterday. is he a tea party warrior and demint is a hero to part of the g.o.p.'s 2010 midterm route. now he is off to head off a think tank the heritage foundation. let's face it the g.o.p. needs new energy. it needs branding help. heck, we have a lot of issues resolve amongst ou
. the president's refusal to budge in negotiations with the g.o.p. on fiscal cliff talks. joining me now university of chicago booth school of business professor and former chairman of the council of economic advisors under president obama, dr. austan goolsbee. dr. goolsbee, where is the stethoscope? come on, i see it there hello, good to see you, austin. >> hey, laura great to see you again. i painted the pictures why conservatives should figure it out and not be in despair. on the other side of the equation you have the president. let's say the president gets his tax hikes. you know, everyone thinks they are going to have higher taxes in the new year. so he gets tax hikes. but then what? i mean, the new normal that's being painted by your friends over at the oecd say our girls will probably be about 2.2%. 2% maybe if we're luck in next year. the new normal even with high taxes doesn't look good. >> yeah. let's hope it's higher than that i think it's going to be a bumpy 60 days in my view. fiscal cliff. as low as that 2% is. the awful state of the world right now is that is about the fa
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on where the fiscal cliff talks stand with 24 days to go. where should you put your money heading into this weekend? could be a very crucial weekend. >>> no worries. with the unemployment rate still near an 8% level, why some companies can't find workers. there's work and it is not a skills gap. we'll show you what else is being factored in to that equation. >>> and no fair, perhaps? well, a big change at big blue. ibm changing the way it pays down its 401(k). will other companies follow suit? tyler mathisen, my partner, who is always fair, always working, and is always a work in progress, according to this, is at new york stock exchange. hi, ty. >> i am the ultimate work in progress. thank you very much. >>> despite the assessment from the speaker of the house on the fiscal cliff, the fact he says there is no progress being made so far, the dow sort of playing past it. right now the industrials up by 46 points at 13,120 and change. apple is part of the nasdaq. apple down $14 a share. another 2.66% today as scott mentioned a moment ago, $50 billion in market value shaved off of ap
, beyond six months, that we are talking about with the fiscal cliff talks. host: that is what might be cut? guest: that is what automatically expires. president obama said as part of the deal i want to make, those benefits should continue. republicans have not taken a firm stand, but we have seen in the past that obama has had it a deal on taxes to get the benefits extended. host: what specific benefits to these programs provide? guest: usually some kind of cash benefit, help you search for a job. it is about $300 per week. sometimes it varies by state. host: and how are the programs funded? guest: by payroll taxes. you pay payroll taxes to the state and federal government. it does to a federal trust, and state administers the program and the money goes to the unemployed. host: talk about qualification for unemployment insurance. what do people have to me to apply, how are they selected? at guest: generally, you have to have a year of earnings over a certain threshold and you have to be let go from a job. the way the structure works, it is hard to say if you graduate from college and you d
thing. >> dana: 4:45. >> eric: we haven't talked about in a long time, the fiscal cliff. the only way you really talk about the fiscal cliff, might be this way. >> ♪ fiscal cliff, you know the time has come ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ and it won't be sparing anyone ♪ ♪ you'll see ♪ you'll see >> eric: you accept it for me on twitter. i love it. keep it coming. >> bob: who is that? >> eric: todd chappelle. >> dana: i have something also about the fiscal cliff. something you haven't heard about is rural america is under threat from a major raise in taxes. death and state taxes. throw up the map. senator from wyoming put this out. 526,421 family farms threatened by the new death tax. mostly because assets are tied up in land. you're land rich and cash poor. this hurts a lot of people. >> greg: this plays in the old phrase buying the farm. >> dana: it plays in something i want to tease for friday, which is i am -- i got to buy the farm. get it. think we haven't heard that. >> bob: promote something? >> dana: on friday, tomorrow i'm going to vegas and i'm going to the national rodeo -- the nat
a fewtoday we are going to talk about three issues briefly. one is that fiscal cliff, to is the debt ceiling. three is the so-called big deal that has to be done on our debt and deficit. unfortunately those issues, convoluted, especially in this town. they are distinct. the impact each other but they are distinct. this fiscal cliff is an artificial state. congress came in, said this law expires on this date. they extended it wants. they put in the sequestration. it is a date. all they have to do is extend the date and allow themselves time to discuss the issues. instead they are putting it all into a lame duck session. that is a problem. sometimes it leads to bad policy. the fiscal cliff can have real consequences. cbo has said that it would cause a recession if we were to go off the fiscal cliff. i do not dispute that i do point out that in 1993 when these taxes were first put in, many said they will cause a recession. they did not. the economy is improving on its own right now. and getting some much stronger. the impact of the fiscal cliff, while not something to be encouraged, may not be
buy fiscal cliff talks by going to c-span.org and clicking on the link. -- you can read more about the fiscal cliff talks by going to c-span.org and clicking on the link. we will year from representative john larson on the fiscal cliff negotiations. after that, we will hear from stephen ohlemacher. you can see "washington journal" everyday life at 7 p.m. -- 7 a.m. eastern here on c-span. coming up next on c-span, the in going an upcoming german discusses what they want to see and a and budget deal. then david walker and rudy penner discuss the fiscal cliff negotiations. later, a discussion on the potential impacts of the negotiations and state budgets. >> the white house was very controversial, as most americans were. they designed washington city. there was competition. he designed a design for a palace. it was not particularly awe- inspiring. in fact, a european diplomat told congress it was neither large or awe-inspiring. but the answer the congressman gave was the building serves its purpose. it is larger and more elegant. photo mer new york times bodh critic on the white house
't supposed to -- i see. >> okay. >> i got it. >>> mike duke did mention the fiscal cliff. we're going to talk about it now. death and taxes among the things we're talking about. will a higher dividend tax rate essentially kill taxpayers at every income level? joining us to talk about this and more on the fiscal cliff is thomas fanning, chairman, president, and ceo of electric giant southern company. how does a utility, tom, how do you prepare for the uncertainty surrounding the fiscal cliff and these washington issues? i guess it's -- you know, in the back of your mind, but you got to run a business, don't you? >> sure. look, we plan with uncertasrcer all the time. our whoerizeons are 30, 40 years. there are big time economic horizons going on. one of the thing we're a indicator of is the future health of the economy. what we have seen is first quarter this year was a really good quarter. second quarter was okay. third quarter went to a dead stop in terms of economic growth. at least in the southeast. we have over 300 projects sitting on the shelf representing about 45,000 jobs. $15 billion o
be done about the fiscal cliff talk. what surprised us off the record behind the scenes, democrats and republicans agree they should be doing a lot more than they're talking about as part of the current negotiations. they said if you did more on tax reform and particularly on the corporate side and more on social security as far as limiting the growth of that program, more on medicare, if you did something to exploit this oil and gas boom that we're seeing in north dakota, texas and across the country, if you did more to get high skilled immigrants into town, you could not only have an economic recovery but an economic boom. there's a lot of agreement off the record on this, but that politicians on both sides are scared to go out there and be the first to say, hey, let's do these big things that could have an appreciable effect on the economy. >> steve, do you agree with that assessment? what are the big things that need to be done? >> i totally agree. the thing that's depressing about the fiscal cliff plan, we will change the tax code, change this, a tax on gas to help the energy
concerns with the fiscal cliff talks? guest: so for most small business owners and senior executives at big, big companies, the fear is that going over the cliff, even on a technical term is going to cause more uncertainty, increase their borrowing cost, and it's going to put our economic recovery at risk. and most point to simpson bowles and understand that we have to raise revenue and we also have to control spending, they generally like the outlines of simpson bowles deal they like the principles behind it, those are pretty clear, pred spread the cost, protect the most vulnerable, don't disrupt the economic recovery, try to simplify the tax code while you're at it. they generally support those principles. >> do you think a recession could happen if we go off this fiscal cliff? guest: they do. i think there's a qualitative difference this year and last. we saw business leaders were concerned that washington wasn't going to come together with a deal and it could end badly. but it was a more muted concern. i think they trusted that washington would get it done. an given how closely -- close
. >> what about the fiscal cliff? we just talked about it with john boehner. does that help or hurt? >> home run for exchange trade for two reasons. whatever happens on the fiscal cliff, whatever they get their act together to do, two things will happen. tax rates will go up on capital gains and dividend. etfs or more tax efficient, more people will follow into that place. i also think some people trapped in mutual funds because they have low tax basis will do tax gains harvesting, realize their gains, pay 15% and move that money finally into cheaper, more tax efficient and better profits etf has to offer. >> trader talk column, trader talk cnbc.com in a few moments. that's what's hot, etfs. back to you. >> we look forward to that very much. thanks, guys. gold market selling off a little bit. at the close, sharon epperson tracking the action at the nymex. moving into stocks and out of the metals. >> they are. we're seeing a little bit of weakness in the gold futures price. gold etfs held up steadily over the last several weebs as well as record levels, in fact. in term of the flat price we a
what they need to see in a fiscal cliff deal. we talk with delaware governor jack markell. >> susie: i'm susie gharib. a coalition of the nation's top c.e.o.s is feeling pessimistic about getting a fiscal cliff deal.
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the fiscal cliff and caterpillar's ceo joins us from the nyse to talk about the fix the debt campaign and more. you know anything we don't know, doug, that you can tell us about how this finally looks and whether we do it? >> i don't know if i know any more than you do or not, joe, but we've all been working hard to impress upon our leadership in washington how important this is not to go over the cliff. we had good sessions with republican leadership, democratic leaderships and with president obama in the white house. nobody over there wants to go over the cliff at this time, there's nothing that wants to do it. >> once we get over it, we hope it's a bridge to something that will help you and caterpillar compete better in the world. after the cliff, what do you want? is there any emphasis on corporate tax reform that we need or how to bring $2 trillion back to this country? aren't those things, did you talk about any of those or the cliff? >> we talked about all of those, long-term competitiveness for our country, immigration reform that needs to happen, and there's a lot of bipartis
on in town. in washington news, both parties hinting at renewed talks on the fiscal cliff. the acknowledgement of open lines of communication passed for encouraging news. a new survey finds more than 60% of leading investment professionals predict a shorp stock decline in the market if the government fails to come up with a deal. in this case defined as a more than 10% drop in the dow. 56% surveyed foresee a deal to avoid the cliff by year end, 44% predict failure in the ongoing negotiations. as for corporate america, through yesterday's close, there have been # 70 announcements of special dividends. these special difference deebds are valueded a more than $30.1 billion. among the latest names, mcgraw hill will pay a special dividends of $2.50 a share before year end. and drop its previously announced plan to buy back up to $200 million more of stock this year. >> everybody's paid their dividends this year, so they won't be paying them next year. >> this is a major issue. what's going to happen is -- we have two great economists onset. but that money will get annualized, s
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boehner's office to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. while talks continue privately between both, no public details of progression toward the compromise have been released. in the last hour, our guest, tony fratto who is the former press secretary and jerry bernstein agreed that we would likely get some sort of a deal, just perhaps not in a form that was widely expected. joining us right now is the first of many lawmakers we'll be speaking with today, texas congressman jeb hensarling who is also the incoming chairman of the house financial services committee. and mr. chairman, first of all, congratulations. >> thank you. good morning. >> good morning. thanks for being with us today. >> happy to do it. >> we hear all of this talk, we hear all the talk that's been leading up to this point. we know it's gone a little quieter at this point. maybe that's a good thing. i also know you've been pretty firm about this. you've said that elections do have consequences. the president is getting his revenues. now he's drawing a line in the sand when it comes to tax rates. do you agree to go a
and house speaker john boehner met today at the white house to talk about ways to resolve the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, we have brand-new reaction from lawmakers from both sides of the aisle speaking out today with just weeks left to reach a deal and little reported progress. the fight appears to be moving towards spending cuts and more and more republicans seem to open to the call to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue. we 6 one house and that is it. a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i think it has merit where i go ahead and give the president the 2%, one speaker calls for an increase in revenues to 39.6 and the other things that the president hats called for. we have done trillion in cuts but we realize there will have to be other cuts and serious negotiations about that. we will have different views. my view and senator corker's views are different but we will have to find spending cuts. >> heather: brad blakeman is assistant to george w. bush and j
talking about the fiscal cliff from jake sherman from politico and also talk about apple announcing yesterday they are going to bring a whole manufacturing line of computers here to the united states. great news. >> that's great news on the jobs front. president obama taking a little easy today. meeting this morning with his senior add advisories who are going to occupy his morning time. sorry. then he has a bill signing this afternoon, the child protection act of 2012 signing in the offal office at twvenlt minutes 20 minutes after noon. jay carney as of yet, no white house beef briefing schedule for today. looks like everybody is getting ready to go into the weekend. one of those -- what are are those job numbers going to be? what do they mean? will other companies follow the example of apple? over the weekend, any more talks good the fiscal cliff and how are we going to get out of it? all of that in the next hour of the "full-court press." so hang around. >> this is "the bill press show." where you don't back down from a challenge. this is the age o
at a cushion to the gulf. >> reporter: one last question. the fiscal cliff, we talk about it, historical, dollar down, commodities up. i see less bang for the buck on commodities, the more q.e. into the system. i'm not sure it's working. >> i think if we get more q.e., and we're likely to get more today which is qe3 part two or qe4, however you phrase it, the fed will announce additional purchases and treasuries, i think that is -- the fiscal cliff is a different situation. i think they'll resolve it at the last minute partially in a temporary short-term way so we don't go into a major recession next year. but i think that things are going to be positive. >> reporter: i know you don't think it's complimentary to say you're like a linebacker, but i'm going to need you in a minute. the media scram is vicious. not only do we have the president of prestige economics, we had a first on cnbc, a coup, my jeer nigerian oil minister, back to you. >> you're staying at the intercontinental, things are looking up. >> reporter: what have i done right? i thought those were the good old days of gone. >
. >>> talks between the white house and republicans over the fiscal cliff are grinding to a hold. house speaker john boehner dealing with division in the gop's ranks to his budget plan. we've got a shanghai surprise. china's mainland markets up over nearly 3% after beijing's new leaders called for economic stability and new business growth. and it looks like more austerity for britain. george osborne getting ready to release his autumn statement. >>> nokia shares a little bit high today. they are teaming up with china mobile, giving access to the world's biggest mobile phone markets. >>> if you just got up, very warm welcome to the start of your global trading day. stocks are on the front foot this morning. this is where we stand with u.s. futures. currently called up around about 30 points higher. the dow down, what, 13 points? the nasdaq called up just under 40 points. the s&p 500 at the moment is called up just over three points. it was down two points yesterday. european stocks doing a little built better. they were as flat as a pancake, as i've been saying. as flat as my pancakes.
and forth on the fiscal cliff. lots to talk about around the country. we will give you a chance to sound off and tell us what it means to you at 866-55-press. >> that's our toll-free number. big news on the media front today, it's been revealed fox news has put out the word we don't karl rove and dick morris to pop up on our air any more at least for a little while. no wonder because during campaign, they got everything wrong. you know, you have to be pretty extreme when your two right-wing even for fox news. karl rove and dick morris sayonara. today's latest current news update. lease a ferguson in our studio in los angeles. hi, lease a. good morning. >> hey, bill. good morning, everyone. let's start out with a couple of updates from the senate. first off, g.o.p. members have rejected a treaty from the united nations that would have banned discrimination against people with disabilities. that vote goes against a very impassioned speech from senator john kerry and against the wishes of former senator bob dole. mr. dole was logging to see this treaty pace
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that created it. >> bill: sure. they're the ones who brought us to the fiscal cliff as we were talking yesterday because their super committee failed to do its job and now we have the sequestration hanging over our heads. >> they constantly create a situation, try to blame obama. >> bill: kevin, do you think we dare say look, hold the line and if you don't raise rates on the top 2%, we're not going to make a deal? >> absolutely. hold the line. i'll gladly pay more taxes than to have some rich son of a bitch pay more. >> bill: you and me both. that's all right. i'm willing to do it. i am a patriotic millionaire. i ought to -- i should join the club. thanks, kevin for the call. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." which was just as you say -- maybe it was starve the beast. i'll look it up during the break. going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party o
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of the talks we've heard about the fiscal cliff, we've heard about balance and new tax revenue. but we don't hear balanced a budget. i think -- balanced budget. i think this speaks to how bad the situation is in the federal government when both parties don'tage knowledge that. as for -- don't acknowledge that. as for what's going on, just downstairs from me, speaker boehner started throwing cold water on any report that the talks were moving ahead. yes, there have been an exchange of offers. he said the last couple of days, but he said his phone call last night was a frank discussion about just how far apart they are. with 19 days left until the deadline or nine days until the end of the world, if you are look at the mine cardinal, nobody knows which way -- calendar, nobody knows which way we are headed. >> isn't this part of the we're so far apart publicly. but suddenly, they will announce miraculously they've reached a deal? >> reporter: i think for those of us here trying to cover us, it's the hardest thing to try to figure out since you are not et going the inside part of this. how muc
john boehner why republicans met today to talk about the fiscal cliff and then are going to go home after the meeting and await for the president's response. here's what mr. boehner said. >> reporter: today's wednesday and the house is going to leave today with two days left in the week. i understand that you are saying that there's no legislation that's been on the floor. but when it comes to just pure optics of the house leaving with the fiscal cliff right in front of us -- >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving this problem. >> mr. speaker, does the conference perhaps realize that you don't seem to be negotiating in all of this? >> our members believe strongly that raising tax rates will hurt the economy. closing loopholes, especially on those who are wealthy, is a better way to raise this revenue than raising rates. because raising rates will hurt the very people that we're expecting to upgrade jobs in our country. >> all right. house speaker john boehner. let's head back to capitol hill and check in with d
assume is the capital gain before the end of the year. >> the fiscal cliff. >> your comments on dupont and joy global, i see pretty cautious commentary from du post. if my numbers are right, 2% global growth is what dupont is talking about next year. 1.5% growth in north america, 4% in asia pacific. i do agree chain a's definitely a bright spot. that's certainly pretty good. dupont really big company, they operate across chemical business, they operate in electronics, agriculture. remember, housing, they owned the tybeck insulation business, that's been a monster business for them overall. i think china is the bright spot. if you look carefully, they're talking about 8% to 12% decline in revenues in 2013. even though they said we're projecting pretty much the same in 2013, as 2012, the ceo said there are signs of improvement in china. yet their numbers overall this year weren't that good. still, i'd say pretty cautious, hopefully china starting to emerge. again, fourth quarter may be the bottom here for china. guys, back to you. >> totally agree. joy would not be having this move i
service. >>> jim iuorio, let's talk about these fiscal cliff expectations. are you seeing anything in this debate, jim, that you think of as investable, actionable, right now? >> well, sure. we tend to think of this as a binary event. either we come to a solution or don't come to a solution. i say that's not the case. there's three different things. one we come to a solution the market accepts and likes, one that it hates or we go over the fiscal cliff. one that the market hates and going over the fiscal cliff seem more likely to me. either one will be an economic drag. i like procter & gamble, big companies with good cash flow that are somewhat recession proof. >> thank you very much, jim iuorio. >>> in the weeks before christmas, not a creature was stirring. not even the house. accept, of course, on twitter where one of the top trending words is cliffmas. in a fiscal cliffmas used in a tweet from the reformed broker, josh brown. according to the congressional daily, the hill, illinois senator dick durbin also jumped on the phrase this week, "21 days until christmas. 27 days until
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of talk but didn't have impact on the stock market. i was here for that. the fiscal cliff has more impact, and it did today. i watched what the markets are doing today. today when bernanke was on, i saw interest rates move up, bond yields move up, highs for the day, and i saw stocks move down. that's kind of the opposite of what bernanke was wanting to have happen. >> right. >> and two things, guys, that did that. number one, he was questioned persistently about the fiscal cliff and had to come out and say what he said before we don't have the tools to deal with it if we go over it. that was a approximate stocks started moving down and secondly, the 6.5% unemployment rate. that's got a lot of people talking down here that we may be closer to that than a lot of people think. >> bob, that's only because people are leaving the workforce. that's how we're going to get there. if everybody decides to stop looking for work and stay home and watch soap operas then we'd have an unemployment rate of zero. >> that could be a factor in their decision making, i'm sure it will be, but i'm using the num
said, we have a deal, a fiscal cliff deal, and bob pisani was delivering a talk on the floor. a deal would signal the start of american austerity. what's your take? >> no, we get a deal going, look out above. i think there's lots of ceos i talked to who want so much. they want to bring money back here higher. this is the cheapest place to build and hire people in the world. but they're just not sure exactly how much they're going to have to spend because of the government. that's the impediment. these guys want to built here, insource, energy costs really low. it can happen. it's huge. >> with that in mind, if we close at these levels, at least in the green, that's five days up, guys. we've not done that since march, which is a -- that's a long time ago. >> i like having becky on "squawk on the street." >> i like sitting next to jim. thanks, guys, it's been great. thanks, jim. thanks, guys. >> see you soon. stimulus watch as the fed kicks off a two-day policy meeting. wait until you hear what investors are saying in our latest fed survey. that's next. >> should you keep betting on a
to go over the fiscal cliff. you have negotiation on many tracks. >> i like to talk about why raising medicare age is a bad idea. first of all, really, what it is is a shift of cost from the federal government to employers, seniors and states. in fact, because medicare is cheaper for beneficiaries, it's increasing. a president who ran on lowering national health care cost, it was one of the reasons why we have the affordable care act. it's when you increase the costs for everybody, and we'll cut out hundreds of thousands of seniors. the seniors are the hardest to ensure. you are raising costs of the medicare program, shifting costs to employers because they have to shift costs. it's making us less competitive. i don't understand -- >> what they are saying, what the signal the white house and its allies on this front would be sending out there is they say jonathan wrote this, there's important symbolic value. >> nonsense. >> but, let me -- the point i want to make here is, this is what they say. i wonder how we got into this mess in the first place. >> if we are talking political and e
had, a chance. >> back to what you were talking about with the fiscal cliff. do you think depending on what the republicans do here in these final, what, two weeks, might that be sort of a harbinger of things to come, a harbinger of the next republican party? >> yeah. i think it will. i think what you're seeing is a party really having an identity crisis, trying to figure out what it is and who it should stand for and as you see more and more republicans sort of saying, you know what, we don't need to go over the cliff on this particular tax issue out of economic theory, we need to take a stand and appeal to the people who can actually get us elected president in the next presidential campaign and that would be the middle class. and also appeal, trying to appeal in the long-term to those minority voters. the fascinating statistic to me out of this entire election, brooke, was that in 2008, 74% of the electorate was white. this time that went down two points and those two points, one could argue, handed the president re-election and the republican party needs to figure out a way to b
at quarterback. sorry, i've just got to say it. so let's talk about the fiscal cliff. >> you don't want to stick on it? >> you want to stick on this? the thing about josh hamilton is, in the 162nd game of the year. >> yeah. >> he basically let a pop fly fall in front of him. >> yeah. >> no effort. >> the irony, of course, is that he probably has the sweetest swing and the most pure talent in baseball. and when he's on, there's no one better. i think he had a four-home run game where every ball was a line drive. it was right on the peg of the bat. if he put it all together, he would have been sitting pretty right now. >> he would have. so fiscal warnings yet to faze wall street. steve rattner, this is a good one to talk to you about with congress and the president seeming to be further and further apart. we're starting to hear well, maybe we can survive the fiscal cliff for a little while. what's going on? >> no, i don't think wall street is saying we can survive fiscal cliff. they're saying i'm not sure we're going over the fiscal cliff. right after the election wall street dropped 5% when every
the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, we will talk about at the top of the hour, in one day on friday, republican legislators in michigan forced through right-to-work legislation, destroying labor unions in a state that labor built, but unions are getting organized. they are going to be big -- there are going to be big protests and they are they say they will not allow them to get away with this. we will talk about that. the latest. today's current news update from lease a ferguson out in los angeles. hi, lisa. good morning. >> hey, bill. good morning, everyone. big banks are in for another round of trouble thanks to a fresh waves of lawsuits facing claims they sold more than $1 trillion of bond securities backed by home mortgages. banks have paid tens of billions of dollars to settle other lawsuits and some in the industry fear they are facing up to another $300,000,000,000 in losses. many homeowners and investors could argue they deserve a payout from the banks after seeing their mortgages collapse during the financial crisis but economists say those costs cou
discover, is worry about the debt and the fiscal cliff. our program today, just briefly, others will talk, and we will give the polling results, and then a senior national journal member will have a panel discussion. it is a terrific day, i think. please turn these off. and, again, i welcome you. joan is the executive vice president of the country's largest insurance. you are in good hands with all state. joan has been a terrific partner. she is responsible of corporate relations for allstate. she did civil -- similar work with monsanto and others. she is a consummate marketing and communications strategist, which is what washington is all about, so thank you very much and welcome. [applause] >> ok. thank you. john, for that introduction. the national journal has been a terrific partner in supporting our work and the challenges that the american middle-class has been facing during this great recession, and i thank them for that. many thanks also to end, who will take us through the polling data to date -- many thanks take us through the polling data today, as well as one of his associates
get elected and then petraeus and then the fiscal cliff and the problem with super storm sandy is an ongoing recovery and will take months and year to fully recover . we need to get the media's attention focused because a lot of people are suffering. >> brian: we taped our "fox and friends" chriss mas show that had people affected by sandy and try to help them with releafeffort. staten ilandd and rockk aways as well. >> steve: you are teaming up with other celebrity and offer celebrity experiences where you might have lunchh or go behind the scene to raise thousands for the victims. >> my friend who is a ceo of charity folks has raised 10s of millions from variouss charities in the entire united states. he was focused on helping victims of sandy and have an interesting cross section. selena gomez. >> gretchen: kim kardashian. >> and going to the next taping of the selena. dinner with my brother alec coming up. >> steve: they have to tip. >> brian: you guys have to tip. >> no. i will take care of the tip. we justt announced that we are having a reunion of the cast of the soprano
us there clearly has to be a deal on the fiscal cliff. i am not sure there are lots of folks i talk to who are believers. a lot of people continue to sit on the sidelines and watching the market work higher and are getting a little bit uncomfortable which were not so far on the sidelines. that is what makes the market. liz: i don't know if he does yos talk a lot about operation twist or seen the expiration of that, that is coming to the end. today you have some energy complex moving higher. natural gas not so much, but how closely tied our prices of natural gas and gasoline into what happened as far as a fiscal cliff is concerned in how people feel about the discretionary income they have an in the monen their wallets? >> the fiscal cliff stuff, i am on the sidelines. we are in a range. if you look at the volatility, we are at the lowest points of the year right here. has not been this year since last year. but 21%. that tells the a lot of people are on the sidelines. look at the range we have been in. everybody got excited. nobody got excited about calls. you have to look at the vo
showing just how far apart they still are in those talks over the fiscal cliff. there were some harsh words from senate republican leader mitch mcconnell this morning. he said president obama is refusing to lead on spending cuts. and he accused him of shaking down top earners for more tax money. >> until the president gets specific about cuts, nobody should trust democrats to put a dime in revenue toward real deficit reduction. >> at the same time, democrats rallied on capitol hill this morning with a warning of their own. >> to all you negotiates -- negotiators who are negotiating on this so-called fiscal cliff and stuff, keep your hands off medicare and keep your hands off medicaid. >> reporter: speaker john boehner is expected to make comments on the house floor. this is the first time we'll hear from him since he met with president obama at the white house on sunday. alison burns, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 8:16. in afghanistan. >> , the head of the women's affairs -- the head of the women's affairs was shot to death. the husband of nadia said she was attacked by masked gunmen as sh
the fiscal cliff is upon us, and one thing that i know is clear in talking to my constituents, time and time guenther' looking for solutions to the problems that we face. -- again, they're looking for solutions to the problems that we face. the solutions will come from us working together, forging a bipartisan solution to the problems that we face and i hope we can go bigger than what is simply asked of us. mr. speaker, one of the great pleasures of being here is to be able to work with good friends. and i want to thank my good friend, steve latourette, and jim cooper as well, for putting together the cooper-latourette bill that is based on simples-bowles, helps raise revenues and -- simpson-bowles, helps raise revenues. today i'm asking my colleagues to join me in putting a bipartisan solution on the table. i want to thank my good friend, steve latourette, and jim cooper. with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentlelady from texas rise? ms. jackson lee: to address the house for one minute. the speaker pr
we're facing a fiscal cliff or anything. >> you're right, susan. it's not a fiscal cliff but a slope. it's a gradual one. >> stooe, it's not right on to talk about people when they're right there. have some manners. do it behind their back. really, it's got for morale. there's a study and everything. >> if you can't say something nice to something, come on over here and tell it to me. no worries, you're among friends here. it's "the cycle." >>> two big developments on the economic front. first the unemployment numbers for november came out and they were way better than expected. we added a net gain of 146,000 jobs and the unemployment rate dropped to 7.7%, the lowest in four years. to steal a little from krystal, it appears it's obama and boehner one on one. there's no i in team but there's one in win, which is why the fiscal slope negotiations are getting serious. we haven't heard yet from the president but have heard from speaker boehner. >> this isn't a progress report, because there's no progress to report. the white house has wasted another week. it's time for the president, if
's talking about what will happen to the auto industry if the country falls off the fiscal cliff. let's take a live look now. the president's motorcade is expected to arrive any minute now, then he will be heading to detroit. there's some new hope for a deal after the president and house speaker john boehner held their first one-on-one meeting at the white house in weeks yesterday. now, both sides are mumm about the negotiations -- are mum about the negotiations but say the lines of communications are open. they have 20 minutes to reach an agreement even if they come up with a plan, the international monetary fund says a more constant solution is needed to maintain the economy. >> there's still that uncertainty that fuels doubt, that prevents investors, entrepreneurs, households from making decisions. >> a politico poll out this morning shows president obama has the most leverage in these negotiations. he is demanding a tax increase for american households that make over $250,000 a year. and this poll shows 60% of americans support that idea. reporting live from washington, d.c., alison burn
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